My Fillial Daughter

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by Sornporn

Thats her problem. Would you continue to pay on her behalf should be the correct phrase to use.

There isn't much difference in culture. This is call family values, many Singaporeans are losing it and there is a cause for concern for the government.

I would use the money on "another purpose" to solve the problem.

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[Peter_North]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

How much is dignity worth these days?
You may think its most important, but to them, it doesn't seem to be the case. All for who?

As for getting out of poverty and love for families, I think the LATTER is the stronger motivation.

I have many tiraks, but they never treat me as their tirak. I LOVE my family, BUT DOES MY FAMILY LOVE ME? Time for everyone to put on thinking caps for the big head

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Dignity is important not because I think it's important. Likewise, dignity is not least important not because they think it's least important.

Nevermind.

[Sornporn]

Originally Posted by yomun

The area of your discussion is more suitable for 'Stephen Leather' thread.

Nobody is ridiculing for what they are. But the reasons behind feeding the whole 108 clan members plus the Thai husband/boyfriend. They are the 'culprits' behind the neverending financial burden.

They live in villages and work on the padi. Thats life for them, we won't be able to understand the harshness of their lives.

[Sornporn]

Originally Posted by yomun

That's a fact no one can deny. They're in the trade for whatever reasons they have. I'm not interested in the reasons. A large percentage of them is doing it to support their family. And sad but true most of the time they're supporting a bunch of lazy asses. Don't forget about the whiskey expenses too. You can go survey if don't believe. Hehehe.

Back to the topic. The family and the 'piichai'.

The environment has brought them to such state. In rural China, there are many as well. Blame it on their country or policy. Rural areas often are neglected. These people worked their ass off but get back only 'peanuts'. Sending their kids to the City to work could bring in more than they work on the padi.

Sometimes, its not up to us to criticise them. We were born lucky. Especially in Singapore. More often than not, we Singaporean are the complain lot. Life compare life, only anger you to death.

Put yourself in their shoe, what would you do if you can't find a job in the City, but got to slog like hell on an agriculture field that reaps little return?

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by Sornporn

The environment has brought them to such state. In rural China, there are many as well. Blame it on their country or policy. Rural areas often are neglected. These people worked their ass off but get back only 'peanuts'. Sending their kids to the City to work could bring in more than they work on the padi.

Sometimes, its not up to us to criticise them. We were born lucky. Especially in Singapore. More often than not, we Singaporean are the complain lot. Life compare life, only anger you to death.

Put yourself in their shoe, what would you do if you can't find a job in the City, but got to slog like hell on an agriculture field that reaps little return?

Err, this is not a complaint thread. Like FRs, this area we touching on is for discussion, not for complaints. It will let others open their mind for the cultural difference and the core REASON why Thai Girls need the money for and using it on.

We cannot dictate how one spend their money, but it sometime makes people wonder why the FAMILY need so much $$$. Is there a wrong cultural upbringing somewhere that many Thai men are lazy? The Thai Ladies say Thai Men Kee Kiat(Lazy), but yet often than not, the money goes to them. Irony

Maybe I should have named the title as GREEDY FAMILY instead of FILLIAL DAUGHTER to bring out the meaning of this thread instead.

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[Snuber]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

And it sometimes come to a point of time, how much is enough?
I have been wondering when these WLs come to the age of late 30s, 40s, without a spouse, without savings, without money, does the FAMILY still get money from her? It becomes a case where she no longer have any "ADDED VALUE".

Dun think it's ever enough. I remembered asking a WL how much the family needs per month & how long she intends to work. She just answered me in 2 words - "Don't know"

Guess it's gonna be a long way before she really retired or knows what to do to get out of it. If the WL can deliver this type of money 1st time, why not 2nd, 3rd & subsequently?

The shelf life for WLs is quite short, considering that they aged faster due to the nature of their work, and it also shows on their faces. Now who would like to bonk an old hag? Eg. a 25 yo WL may look like she's in her 30s already!!
Almost all man like SYTs!

Maybe by the time she can stop, it becomes a case of she being an old spinster which may have a lot of difficulties getting married. Marry an ex WL who is an old haggard? How many man can take this? Then this becomes a case of an additional worthless mouth to feed to the family.

No matter how much you tried to tell them this, they will always have the "Family comes first. We can even break up for all I care!" thinking if she has a boyfriend. Guess they must have been brainwashed since young.

[Sornporn]

Originally Posted by siamcutey

Err, this is not a complaint thread. Like FRs, this area we touching on is for discussion, not for complaints. It will let others open their mind for the cultural difference and the core REASON why Thai Girls need the money for and using it on.

We cannot dictate how one spend their money, but it sometime makes people wonder why the FAMILY need so much $$$. Is there a wrong cultural upbringing somewhere that many Thai men are lazy? The Thai Ladies say Thai Men Kee Kiat(Lazy), but yet often than not, the money goes to them. Irony

Maybe I should have named the title as GREEDY FAMILY instead of FILLIAL DAUGHTER to bring out the meaning of this thread instead.

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Nobody will complain money is enough. Do you complain money is enough for you? I am sure not. I have no comment on their upbringing, take a look at yourself and for the matter ourselves first before we whack on someone else family. I wouldn't say our upbringing is perfect and that now I am a perfect man. We indulge in commercial sex. We visit Thailand and look for WLs. Just go there and enjoy whatever they have and whenever you are still young, single and available.

Why must we question about their family, their background the mouths they feed. Our impression isn't good to any girls out there... even for the WLs. They are in the trade for money, I am sure they don't do it because they enjoy it! Likewise, you find WLs because you cannot resist the temptation. Both of us not perfect already. So why kicking a big fuss over what they are doing with their family? So when you go booking a WL, do you do background check on their family? What they say and what they tell you, just take it with a pinch of salt.

We are there, we enjoy ourselves... end of the day we fuck and we fuck off. Simple business transaction. Don't ask to much or don't criticise too much. Unless you want a WL for a life partner.

[Sornporn]

Originally Posted by yomun

Why some can work in supermarkets while some chose the flesh trade? That's not my business. But what intrigues me is the indulgence of the WL to constantly feed the lazy asses.

This example might be a little extreme but I'm sure the theory is the same. If you know your brother is a drug addict. Do you still continue to give him money to buy drugs? Or you fuck him up big time to tell him to wake up his idea? Even to the point that he may sever ties with you if you report him for rehabilitation. I'm sure most of us will do that. If not it'll just get deeper.

However the WL will still feed the family member even with the knowledge the money is being squandered. They won't ask too many questions as long as they feel they are doing their duty. Less confrontations = no loss of face. FACE & MONEY. Remember these two words. We can throw away our own face to save our loved ones. They won't.

My friend that's one example of the culture difference between Singapore and Thai culture.

Take a look this way. Why some men can have a decent life and not indulge in casual sex or paid sex and why some men can have sex very casually? Theory is the same, every family has it own problem where the chinese saying: 'Jia Jia You ben Nan Nian De Jing'. The better question is have we sorted out our own family problems or have we even sorted ourselves out?

We are no saint going around telling people to server ties with their family members. I am sure if your family members like your sisters or mother found out you indulge one of the vices such as commercial sex or casual sex, do you think they will sever ties with you?

Look at it this way, we are now talking about people's family being pure lazy asses. But what about others who see us as basically good for nothing, wasting money piece of asshole who just want to get laid? Aren't we suppose to work hard, save that money, look for a good wife and take good care of our family and our parents?

Look at ourselves first before we talk about someone else family. Its not up to us to comment cos we are no better either.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by Sornporn

Why must we question about their family, their background the mouths they feed. Our impression isn't good to any girls out there... even for the WLs. They are in the trade for money, I am sure they don't do it because they enjoy it! Likewise, you find WLs because you cannot resist the temptation. Both of us not perfect already. So why kicking a big fuss over what they are doing with their family? So when you go booking a WL, do you do background check on their family? What they say and what they tell you, just take it with a pinch of salt.

We are there, we enjoy ourselves... end of the day we fuck and we fuck off. Simple business transaction. Don't ask to much or don't criticise too much. Unless you want a WL for a life partner.

it's a discussion topic at the end of the day because this is a forum. No one is kicking up a big fuss. No one is doing background checking. We are just discussing about the cultural difference in this certain aspect.

People can discuss political topics, car topics, computer topics, sex topics, and even cultural topics. You discuss what topics you like and whatever topics you don't like, you can choose not to discuss.

So what are the topics you like? The ones that you like may not be the ones I am interested. So doesn't mean I got to stick in and say hey, "Why are you bothering about the fundamentals of A, B and C. Just go for the end result. But then you may be interested in History."

Bottomline is this: a topic for discussion is just for discussing.

The one getting uptight here isn't me.

back to the topic on the FAMILY then.

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[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by Sornporn

We are no saint going around telling people to server ties with their family members. I am sure if your family members like your sisters or mother found out you indulge one of the vices such as commercial sex or casual sex, do you think they will sever ties with you?

Look at it this way, we are now talking about people's family being pure lazy asses. But what about others who see us as basically good for nothing, wasting money piece of asshole who just want to get laid? Aren't we suppose to work hard, save that money, look for a good wife and take good care of our family and our parents?

Look at ourselves first before we talk about someone else family. Its not up to us to comment cos we are no better either.

No one is telling them to sever ties with their FAMILY.

I got a job, I earn my keep. I use my money to bonk. I decide how I spend my money. I wouldn't be like "those whom I am talking about", getting money from other source and spending it on gambling, drugs, women.

Thats the difference. If today I am getting my money from someone else to spend on gambling, drugs, women, then of course I see the finger being pointed back at me.

And lastly, I SMELL FLAME

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[Sornporn]

Not to worry to much. I am not here to flame or would I bothered be flamed. Just think the topic of family too sensitive.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by Sornporn

Not to worry to much. I am not here to flame or would I bothered be flamed. Just think the topic of family too sensitive.

taboo topics always seem sensitive. But to hide from it doesn't hide the fact that its always around.

And the sad thing is, this doesn't only apply to Families of WLs, it also applies to Families of normal TGs.


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[Snuber]

Think it should be problematic families irregardless of nationality.

Main focus here is on TG because SG men has been in touch with TGs for a long time already.

[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by sex_maniac

Families with good economic background included?

this I don't know. But 1 thing I do know, even if you marry a normal TG, doesn't mean you don't need to feed the "bad habits" of the FAMILY.

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[siamcutey]

Originally Posted by Snuber

Think it should be problematic families irregardless of nationality.

Main focus here is on TG because SG men has been in touch with TGs for a long time already.

Actually its just a topic which I think its worth touching on.
We often only read about how KC the girls are, how men fall into love traps, how men fall head over heels over them. But this topic will bring another perspective on how we see things.

It's not something that the normal Joe sees. What is posted is the truth. Knowing something extra don't harm the readers. But of course, i don't encourage people upon seeing the happenings in this thread to give their "sympathies" to the girls.

It shouldn't be seen in that way of light. It should be seen as learning more about the culture which we don't see in our Singapore Society.

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