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dickrick
10-04-2009, 11:16 AM
Especially for the newbies, and maybe some tips for the more seasoned bros, I just put together my experiences and feedback I've received from friends and ladyboys about how to get a good ladyboy "education".
But why bother? Straightforward isn't it? Just go contact a ladyboy, do a deal and that's it?
Not really, like any education, you need to study, to do your homework. So when the exam comes, you're ready!
So the idea here is to bonk a ladyboy and get the best experience for your money.

Lesson One
Firstly, they're not freaks! Not an animal you look at in a zoo.
They're human, odd behaviour sometimes, but still human. So the treatment has to be how they would like to be treated i.e. like girls.
The moment you treat then otherwise, they react differently. If they react differently, everything is done machine like, with no emotions and they're dying to finish the act. And you get a so so experience.
So be nice;compliment them, even if it's a white lie. Tell them their hair looks good, the dress looks great on them etc. But, don't overdo it. One or two compliments is enough. (In the Rowell situation where talking before the deal is sometimes impossible, it's a bit hard)
Lesson Two
Don't take Field Reports (FRs) as the whole truth. Some people exaggerate; to put it mildly. So use them as a rough guide. Take the trouble to read the posts in forums, note locations, descriptions, services so you save time. Take note, as others have mentioned, some ladyboy ads in vicesisters and web sites are also exaggerated. Also remember that Mr A may get a good level of service for one reason or other but Mr B may get something different with the same ladyboy.
Try and experience the locations yourself - where do you feel comfortable? Strolling along Rowell Road, sitting on a bar stool in Romeos :) or daring to be different and heading across the causeway to experience the rough Susor Empat?
Not sure? Try them all, using your own sixth sense to guide you. (Incidentally, do try Bangkok's Nana Plaza for the ultimate range if you can.)
And, oh yes, heck, even try a cross dresser who's willing to give free blow jobs!
Once you've seen the locations, you've seen who's available and what turns you on you're ready to choose!
Lesson Three
Decide on your price level. For your education to be complete you must try all the levels if possible. Why? Because then you can compare the price and quality that gives you the best satisfaction. Some people are fast workers so not much point taking a trans for one hour and then TCSS, unless you like to talk! Even so, do try try an escort or a trans from OT at least once just for the experience.
Once you've decided, use your sensors! Where you can, make contact, smile, say hello, ask where they come from (even if you know). If you sense warmth in their response, chances are, it's a good time ahead.
Start negotiations! Always confirm a price and ask how long and what service is provided. Don't be embarrassed! It will save an awkward moment later. When talking of price, if for example, a trans asks for $100 don't try for $50! It says you're not serious and straight away it gives a negative impression. Tipping - if the service is good, give a tip at the end, usually if it's $30 give $35/40. But don't overdo it, because the next time you take the same one she will expect that level of pricing. So be reasonable, it has to be good for both sides or else the experience is usually no fun.
Lesson Four
Before the bonking, prepare yourself, you know your own body. Over eating and over drinking is not wise, especially too much booze!
Safety - always use a cap! This is one point I cannot elaborate enough. Getting an STD or worse - AIDS is not funny.
Cleanliness - yes, one turn off for a ladyboy is always customers that stink, especially when you can't shower before the act.
Go for it! Forget your problems and just enjoy yourself. If you're happy, it gets infectious! It usually makes the trans more comfortable.
After the act, chit chat a bit and if it was good don't forget the telephone number and her name!
Lesson Five
The idea is to try as many trans as you can within a reasonable time. Many reasons for this. First, you need to try different people who will give different techniques and experiences etc. Second, if you stick to one, what happens when she goes back? So, if possible have 3 alternatives and better still, in 3 different locations so as to avoid an odd moment.
Security - Be careful of your belongings especially if you pick up a trans from Geylang or hanging outside Orchard Towers (those not connected to a house or pub).
Lastly, share your experiences on this forum - good or bad, try and be specific, where, who, how much, service provided etc. The more information we all have the better for all of us here.
Cheers all, happy bonking :D and please, I'm not perfect and nor is this post, any comments or questions?

RumpRanger
10-04-2009, 11:49 AM
Excellent Ladyboy 101 primer, Professor dickrick!

tim85
10-04-2009, 01:06 PM
nice sharing there. upz thread

eeemen
10-04-2009, 07:13 PM
Bro dickrick, As always, your guide is most helpful for all, esp newbies. Thanks for taking the time out to "publish" your thoughts and experiences.;) Cheers :D . Will upz u when power returns for being most helpful

Tankuku
11-04-2009, 09:31 AM
Wah.. so many thing to know.. I din realli tink of it b4.. :o

strange
11-04-2009, 03:55 PM
seems like local LBs are getting less.. the old one are growing older but we dun seems to see new ones

wonder where the new and younger local LBs hang out

dickrick
12-04-2009, 06:29 PM
seems like local LBs are getting less.. the old one are growing older but we dun seems to see new ones
wonder where the new and younger local LBs hang out

You're right bro strange, the few local lbs are mainly in Changi and that maybe total max of 20 or even 30? Some can be found around the Orchard Towers area around 11 plus and even then not a big number.
It's strange, but Sgbutterfly, a local portal/forum for the transgender in Singapore has about 1,800 members. Given that it's open to anyone, let's just say half are true transgender; that's about 900! :confused: I'm guessing it's a case of them not wanting to be in the P4P line for one reason or another.
Maybe the temptation to go into P4P is not as strong as the less developed and poorer countries around us?
If you keep a sharp eye open you can spot trans around shopping centres etc. but they're mainly in conservative type clothing.
By the way, Sgbutterfly has a strict policy on not encouraging the forum to be used for "making contacts". So it's no P4P talk.

memon
12-04-2009, 11:13 PM
You are the man! That's basically rounds up the do's and Don'ts for cheonging LB in Singapore. :)

icekewl
13-04-2009, 09:05 AM
thanks for the great intro bro!

Cheonging101
13-04-2009, 09:31 AM
Good lessons, bro!

In fact, I think it's applicable to all, not just LBs!

Super~Kids
13-04-2009, 09:39 AM
Well say bro. Not all LB's are bad also.

memon
16-04-2009, 01:16 PM
It's strange, but Sgbutterfly, a local portal/forum for the transgender in Singapore has about 1,800 members. Given that it's open to anyone, let's just say half are true transgender; that's about 900! :confused: I'm guessing it's a case of them not wanting to be in the P4P line for one reason or another.


Good analysis. Perhaps most of them just wanna remain discreet and be treated like ladies. Some of the Local LBs are so successful in their transformation that you can hardly spot the difference unless they start to speak.

starfly
23-04-2009, 09:41 AM
Good info for those who wanted to try ladyboy. Cheers! :)

rojunk
23-04-2009, 10:38 AM
Good info. Too bad I didn't have such education when I first started cheonging LB years back. :o

Labbitan
07-05-2009, 10:00 AM
know of any post-op ladyboy operating in Rowell?

fogg
07-05-2009, 03:11 PM
know of any post-op ladyboy operating in Rowell?

Wow! looks like you are hunting for post op LB. Thought you enjoy sucking on their manhood based on one of your FR? ;)

samuel6196
25-05-2009, 02:52 PM
Hello bro dickrick thank for writing the thread.After l read the thread l know more about ladyboy already n hoping to try out ladyboy when l have the chance.

BigBadDaddy
25-05-2009, 07:36 PM
Well say bro. Not all LB's are bad also.

Very true. Like there is this old timer, Irene i.e. the tatoo siao, all bros who are oldtime cheongsters at Desker would know her. She has posed for some well known foreign websites before. Some bros here as wels as some of my friends find her obnoxious, proud, etc., but I'm ok with her. In fact, I consider her a good friend. She may be a little shall we say "wierd" at times e.g. her tales such as that of the "roti man" but essentially she is a real friend who can help you if you are really in need and if she regards you as a friend. I've seen her helping a few. So moral of the story is do not do unto others what you do not want done upon yourself. Treat them with respect. Be firm when you need to be but don't be a cunt!

Now and then when I drop by even when I do not call her, I will still chat her up be in outside the unit she hangs out at or inside her room, ask her how she is doing, offer to buy her her makan or drinks. She almost always never accepts my offer. The few times she did, she was appreciative. There was a time when she had some issues with her Mac, offered to see what if anything was wrong. A bit of give and take. It should not be about money and sex all the time.

dickrick
06-06-2009, 12:34 AM
Chapter 6 - Ladyboy Escorts
Guys, becuase of some postings on other threads I thought I'll add this in:

The ladyboy escorts that come to Singapore have one primary target in mind - people that pay $200 plus per hour - whether they're white, brown or purple for that matter. (Although for whatever reason you do get the exceptions.) They come here with the first thought being - how to cover their air fare, hotel etc. which hits the thousand dollar mark quite easily. But as a local who's got much more time and knows the "lobangs" so well ; we're used to paying between $30 to $150 for bonks!
So, we're not the automatic first choice! :mad: We've all got to remember this, myself included. I feel really rotten and even hurt when a ladyboy picks a better paying customer over me. But my thinking is, why should I pay more than necessary? I could spend the savings on booze or heck add on more and get another shot. The fact is, I may be rejected by miss A but miss B and C is ready and waiting because there are dozens out there. :)
You know, it's something like when we go shopping and ask for a lower price. The sharp shopkeeper senses that we need the item and refuses to go down on price? And many people fall for it, forgetting that the next door shop could have a better bargain. Ya, sure, it's a hassle to find something else but if we don't bother the power goes from us, the buyer to the seller.
Cheers all and please, this my two cents worth feel free to disagree.

Toshni123
08-06-2009, 04:15 PM
As an avid reader of these forums and being an AMG mo of some duration
here in singapore I can appreciate some of the frustration by local guys getting passed up for the "deep pockets" of westerners. That said a lot of us westerners also find it equally hard to stump up $200 as many of us work on local contracts. I am not looking for sympathy but just putting across another point of view. I am realatively new to the LB scene because high prices for my white face does not make it as enjoyable as maybe it should or could do.

Always the first question I get when calling is "where u from and what's ur nationality", the answer to this dictates the price. Having said that I have got below $200 when I have gone on about economic crisis and we are all suffering etc, which is true, sometimes works sometimes doesn't.

Anyway will post a bit more often hopefully.

Cheers

Toshni123
08-06-2009, 04:20 PM
As an avid reader of these forums and being an AMG mo of some duration
here in singapore I can appreciate some of the frustration by local guys getting passed up for the "deep pockets" of westerners. That said a lot of us westerners also find it equally hard to stump up $200 as many of us work on local contracts. I am not looking for sympathy but just putting across another point of view. I am realatively new to the LB scene because high prices for my white face does not make it as enjoyable as maybe it should or could do.

Always the first question I get when calling is "where u from and what's ur nationality", the answer to this dictates the price. Having said that I have got below $200 when I have gone on about economic crisis and we are all suffering etc, which is true, sometimes works sometimes doesn't.

Anyway will post a bit more often hopefully.

Cheers

dickrick
08-06-2009, 10:27 PM
Bro Toshni123, understand your frustration. The problem is, as long as you get enough Ang Mohs or Koreans/Japanese willing to pay these prices it looks like it'll be a standard.
It's a pity Lor 16 in Geylang isn't what it used to be. You would have paid $100/$120 for an hour for quality comparable to some of those from Orchard Towers a year or two ago. Speaking of which, you may get lower prices from the odd Thai or Filipino trans that sometimes hang around the ground floor of OT and the stretch till the Isetan department store. However, do be very careful of your valuables when you pick them up. There have been incidents in the past, albeit isolated.

Toshni123
09-06-2009, 05:35 PM
Sorry about the double posts not easy sometimes to post here from my iPhone in the office hahaha.

Anyway let's hope that the current economic crisis brings the prices down a bit as then I am sure more LB's will get more business meaning higher income for them and satisfied customers all round..... I live in hope!!!

goofballz
11-06-2009, 12:30 AM
Excellent info! A must read for those uninitiated. :)

hydron
15-06-2009, 12:24 AM
Hello bro dickrick thank for writing the thread.After l read the thread l know more about ladyboy already n hoping to try out ladyboy when l have the chance.

Be warned. You may get addicted in the process. ;)

sine
16-06-2009, 10:42 AM
Very true. Like there is this old timer, Irene i.e. the tatoo siao, all bros who are oldtime cheongsters at Desker would know her.

Irene would wear spaghetti strip and shorts to showcase her tattoos with fail. I don't blame her to be "proud" cos there are plenty of onlookers who loves to stare at her as if she is some freak show. One of the better looking Local LBs in Desker. Wonder why she don't operate at CV?

zaper
19-06-2009, 02:36 PM
Wonder why she don't operate at CV?

Maybe she is not local. I understand that the sista in CV only allow local LB to operate there.

dickrick
19-06-2009, 10:48 PM
Maybe she is not local. I understand that the sista in CV only allow local LB to operate there.
Bro, Irene happens to be a pioneer in the Rowell area. If I'm not mistaken she was even from the Johore Road area. I'm pretty sure she's local.
Whether it's Changi Village, Orchard Towers or wherever it's a territorial thing.
They cannot suka suka go where they want. Any ladyboy wandering in the wrong area will be told off or even assaulted. Each area normally has a senior sister, a "mak ayam" in Malay and she decides who belongs.
Also any ladyboy caught stealing from a customer will be bashed up. I've seen such a case in Geylang once.
As I understand it, it's a similar story in Malaysia too.

ryder
20-06-2009, 02:39 AM
Bro, Irene happens to be a pioneer in the Rowell area. If I'm not mistaken she was even from the Johore Road area. I'm pretty sure she's local.

WOW! Irene so old ah... Johore Road is beyond my era. Good chance she is in her forties by now. *sweat*